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This game reminds me of Vagante or Caveblazers. I love this type of game but procedurally generated is always a deal breaker.
Well it looks really good, but will you export it to macOS too ?
Love the procedural stuff, that's really cool! The variety of monsters and how they each have their own style of attack and animation is really awesome! You can tell a lot of work went into this, down to the cutting grass and question mark when the goblin can't find you. Personally, I'm terrible at this game haha and it took a while to realize 'F' makes you go through the end door and opens chests. It's confusing because the first doorway you just walk through it. Also, the up arrow should totally jump like 'W' does. I think I got to the bottom like three times and had a MOB of monsters chasing me and died haha. Down below, smutigbanan mentioned something to aid in restoring health and I would have totally played for WAY longer had I not kept dying and having my progress reset. Great job overall! Hope you keep updating this!! :)
Nice work! This is a good, solid base for a roguelite platformer.
The theme is kinda generic at the moment. It needs a gameplay gimmick, a novel aesthetic, and an emotional core in order to really suck the player in. The sooner you add those, the better, because they're the kind of thing you want as your pillars of game development. Once you figure them out, they should inform all of your creative decisions.
Gameplay suggestions ranked in order from most to least important:
> My Xbox controller is a little old, and the thumbsticks tend to rattle a little bit when I let go of a direction. Make sure you have "dead zone" in the middle of the thumbstick. (I.E. the character won't switch direction unless absolute value of the input > 0.2 or so.)
>I'm pretty sure you are using "Coyote Time" for jumps, because I didn't feel like I was constantly falling off of ledges when I jumped, but the bottoms of walls need an equivalent of Coyote Time but for for wall-climbing. It was WAY too hard to catch the bottoms of some floating islands and start a climb.
>I'm unsure if the above is the reason why, but I had trouble climbing walls sometimes. It feels less responsive/intuitive than Megaman X. That's a benchmark you should seriously be aiming for. Less involuntary X movement when jumping off of a wall or more rapid change from the automatic movement to the player's input would fix the problem.
>At the bottom of the dungeon, the GUI sometimes covers up enemies at the bottom of the level. Just add a layer or two of solid dirt to the bottom at level generation to fix this.
> Give the player feedback when the player character takes a hit, even if it's just them turning white for a frame and playing a sound effect. (Needs to be different from the sound when the player hits an enemy because we're never not hearing that sound.)
>I dislike how the gold disappears behind slime, weeds, etc. You should render the gold on top, just like you would enemies, because the gold is a functional gameplay mechanic! GUI > Enemy projectiles > Enemies > Player > Collectibles > NPCs > Chests/Boxes/Pots > Interactive objects (lifts, moving platforms, buttons, etc.) > Dynamic decorations (blood spatter, debris, etc) > Collidable walls/floors > Static decorations (furniture, statues, etc.) > Background walls > Distant Parallax backgrounds
> Likewise, a sound effect when you pick up gold would make collecting gold feel more fun. Juice it or lose it!
> Whirlwind attack, while kinda fun to pull off, is no better than using your basic attack, because the enemies get knocked back, so you need to drain your entire magic bar just to kill one enemy who you could easily stab three times instead. (Maybe this could have a place in future versions if there's dozens of mobs swarming you in a room? But in the first dungeon, it's useless.)
Yes, these suggestions are "polish," but they're polish that affects the core gameplay. Remember, Miyamoto spent ages perfecting Mario's jump before doing anything else! You should, too.
Good luck! :)
Sorry, let me re-structure that as me telling you about the problems. Solutions in parenthesis. That way it's easier for you to ignore the suggestions and focus on the feedback.
The #1 cause of death is because I didn't realize how much damage I was taking, or when, or why.
(I think the industry-standard fix for this is standard for a reason. Visual and audio indicators on the player character, not on some life bar far away from where you're looking.)
The #2 cause of death/taking damage is because my character would change directions on its own when I left go of the left thumbstick. I'd move forward to the correct distance to attack, stop moving, and press the attack button, only for my character to face the wrong way on their own so the attack would miss and the enemy would hit me and I'd die.
(Again, there is an industry-standard solution for this. Proper thumbstick deadzones (Analogue inputs must be > ~0.2 or ~20% of max possible input in order to "count") would prevent or at least reduce this.)
Wall-climbing is just plain unresponsive in the following situations:
- When trying to wall-jump off the bottom of a floating island you can just barely reach
- When trying to go from a wall you're ascending onto the top of a platform that's just one tile away from the ceiling.
- Both at once is absolute hell.
Are you trying to be Spelunky or Dead Cells? Because right now the wall jumping feels sometimes like sometimes one, sometimes the other, depending on subtle differences in the player's timing, rather than the height of the jump being attempted. It feels bad.
(These are legal jumps, well within the range of the max jump height, but sometimes they work and sometimes they don't. If you can detect when the player is likely trying to do these jumps and somehow fudge the rules so the player ends up where they expect to, like some sort of wall jump version of Coyote Time, it will make the game as a whole feel fast, fluid and responsive, but it might be as easy as simply not pushing the player away from the wall when they jump.)
Collecting treasure was annoying. Collecting treasure should be fun! They're both hard to see because of all the slime and grass covering them up, and there's no feedback when you collect them, which would give a quick cheap jolt of "I did it right" dopamine.
(Sound effect & number or spinning coin animation disappearing into the sky upon collection. Draw the important collectible coins on top of the unimportant slime, blood, and grass special effects.)
At the bottom of the dungeon, the GUI sometimes covers up the action. Enemies, chests, and other important gameplay entities are obscured by the HUD, and unlike the rest of the level, the player can't make the action visible by dropping down lower.
(Just add a layer or two of solid dirt to the bottom at level generation to fix this.)
Man, thank you so much for the massive feedback! This is a very old version of the game and I already fixed most of the problems you mentioned but there are things I will definitely work on based on your feedback! (Especially wall jumping and layer drawing).
Thank you so much!
No problem! :D Glad I could help. But if that's the case, I'm afraid I'm going to have to add more more criticism...
The game I am critiquing on itch is out of date!
(Have you met my friend Builds? Nightly Builds? He's great at making sure all the feedback you get reflects the current state of the game. And as a nice side effect, he makes people know your game's not dead and is still being worked on so it doesn't fall off the hype train before it even leaves the station.)
non riesco ad installarlo! ho un Windows
can you release this for mac and linux? That would be a great way to have more people play your little game!
really cute little game with a lot of potential, cant wait for a full release
Fun game! I love the style and music. The keyboard controls aren't great, and sometimes the terrain generation can create unreachable areas. Other than that, I enjoyed it! Looking forward to more demos / a full release.
I'd love to test this if you can make a MacOS or Linux build! It runs in wine on MacOS, but so it slows down gradually due to wine exceptions. Love the style, and gameplay feels nice.
a really fun little game :)
I´ve played it for a couple hours and really enjoyed it. Although there are some problems. Sometimes when a small goblin notices you they vanish so you cant see them and when you make to the lowest level of a floor the hotbar gets in the way so you cant see your own character. Also the dive is kinda delayed after hitting something and the "H" power doesnt work on the keyboard.
Plus wish that there´s an actual healing item and not just things like the salad and the bubbly bottle
Still a really fun game and will def buy when the full release comes :)
The attack still feels kind of flighty, maybe because you can walk past characters so easily so sidling up to them to hit them with the slash feels unsatisfying. I know Dead Cells has a system where walking through enemies is possible, but you go slower and the game automatically slightly nudges you to keep you on one side of the enemy if you haven't obviously expressed the intention to go past them. tl;dr consider making it easier to sidle up to characters to attack with melee. Sfx and feedback on attacks could be a little better too, maybe because attack animation is short for my taste it feels less satisfying than a true THWACK
i got to agree. the sword needs a satisfying thwack, and maybe have more windup. also, i feel like the jump needs to be a little more floaty, if not little bit higher. the jump feels like i am barely jumping at all because i dont get enough time in the air. also, because you dont have a downward or upward atack, it would be apreciated if you made the arc of the sword reach higher up and down
This is one cute little game. The pixel art graphics sure is nice and fits the game really well -- very awesome pixel art job. The music also fits the game really well; did you compose the musics yourself?
I do realize that the game recommends me to play with a controller but well... I don't have a controller... and attacking with G is kind of... non-intuitive. Also considering that the player can jump with W, can you make it so that the player can also jump with the up arrow? :/
Personally I find this game a little bit too hard; but probably is a proper difficulty if you intend it as such. I also want to know if getting killed totally resets everything and puts me right back at zero every time I die?
I Love the Pixel style
That look to be a really good game ! But... I can't play it because there no mac versions D:
If you can fix that with a mac version and a linux version i'm sure more people will be allowed to see your project and play it.
So i hope the mac versions will be here soon :D
I don't know if theres a ranged weapon, but if theres not it'd be cool if there was a bow
Hello, i have double jump to the left wall at the begining of demo, now my character is lost in the ground snif.
Hey I think your discord link has expired.
Hey, that game has potential!
I have a youtube channel where I review games made in gamemaker (plus gamemaker video tutorials) and your demo is a good example how to start it right.
Therefore I have two questions to you. Can I use your logo in my video thumbnail and are you interested in sendimg a review copy once that game is finished? If you don't want free cloud or you are not interested or even want to prohibit me using your logo in the thumbnail, please write me here.
Ach ja, gutes Game dass du da gemacht hast! Weiter so.
Video found here: https://youtu.be/uGXTNnLk25c
Wow thank you so much for your review! I know your channel and I actually watched some of your videos few weeks ago, that's so awesome :)
Sure you can use the logo and I would love to send you a copy of the game. Maybe it will take a while though :D
(Hier einen Deutschen zu treffen ist auch mal eine nette Überraschung :) )
Krass dass du überhaupt meinen Kanal kennst, die Welt ist echt klein (mein yt Kanal auch). Wie hast du es geschafft bei itch.io auf die Startleiste zu kommen, plus deine Video wurde aktiv bei mir gesucht. Wenn du Lust auf ein Gespräch oder einen Austausch hast kannst du mal bei mir im Discord vorbeischauen. Discord: https://discord.gg/gvr98nb
Das was du als Demo gemacht hast ist schon recht fortgeschritten (Stil, loop, gameplay). Alles deine eigene Kreation oder hast du eine Engine benutzt?
Wenn du eine Vollversion mir schickst, werde ich auf jeden Fall eine weiteres Video machen. Eine Idee wann du es releasen willst?
Ich hatte ein wenig Probleme mit draw_sprite_part (hatte das vorher nie benutzt) und habe dann dein Video dazu gefunden, das hat mir dann auch tatsächlich geholfen :) Ja so kam ich dann auf deine Videos. Und wie ich es auf die Startseite geschafft habe ist eine gute Frage :D Die Demo war für mich eigentlich nur für Feedback zum Spiel-Feeling da, hauptsächlich in Sachen Player-Steuerung etc. Ich hätte nicht gedacht, dass das so eine Aufmerksamkeit bekommt.. Ich schaue auf jeden Fall mal auf deinem Discord vorbei, da können wir gerne mal Plaudern wenn es die Zeit zulässt :)
Alle Spielelemente sind selbst gecoded, da ist aber auch bis jetzt eigentlich nichts extrem komplexes dabei.. Ich bin momentan am Pathfinding der Gegner am arbeiten, da verzweifle ich aber langsam dran.. da fehlt mir einfach noch das Wissen um da einen Gegner zu programmieren, der nicht absolut dumm ist :D Naja irgendwie werde ich das auch noch herausfinden.
Und ja eine Vollversion wirst du auf jeden Fall bekommen, ein Release kann ich dir jedoch noch nicht sagen.. das wird wohl noch ein Weilchen dauern..
I really like the core loop of this and am interested to see at what crazy builds you can do over time. Thought the controls felt very solid and am super pumped for the future of this game.
Thank you for you review! Already commented on the video but I wanted to say thank you again! :)
when you spawn there is an invisible wall to the left where you can climb it and go over it. The response time is a bit slow but its ok.
i personaly feel the jump needs more paower, and the player sprite needs a biger feel (i felt like a dworf compaired to slimes) and podibly adding more range to the sord it curently feels varry finicy. but all in all a good game i saw alot of potenchal in this game. key binding would be nice thow.
Thank you! Yeah the hitbox of the sword was a bit too pixel perfect! Scaled that up to 3 pixels further so it's gonna be easier hitting those mobs!
I honestly really liked the game and the game style. The only off things for me were the:
Ccontrols, maybe the ability to bind keys or at least not have all the controls on one line on the keyboard would be nice.
Pause Menu: the fact that there isnt a pause menu or at least not one i could figure out how to get to? lol
Tutorial: Maybe having a small more interactive tutorial at the beginning showing you the basics and whats needed to be done in the game.
Overall though everything looks good!
Thank you for playing! I'm working on all of the things you mentioned and they will be available in the next update! I hope you'll check it out again :)
This game is an 8/10! I wish there was a more clear goal in the beginning on what we we're fighting for but I understand that this is just a demo and there is tons more to come. But why it's not a 10/10 or a 9/10 is because the CONTROLS. my fingers are in pain sir, why? wasd or arrows keys, ok fine fine, up arrow key doesn't let you jump but w & space does, ok whatever... G for attack, wait, "G" FOR ATTACK!? why just no... and to make it worse J is for dash. AND YOU CAN'T DOUBLE JUMP, you have to jump off another block to jump twice. I swear I spent a good 2 minutes just trying to get into one of the nooks to get a chest but eventually I just gave up. anyways, K stomp, L swirl attack?, & H unknown because I didn't get far enough. Why GHJKL? and why not 12345? no? Okay stick with GHJKL but atleast make the attack , swirl & dash all next to each other because they're the most used. I did see though that this game works better for controller but that doesn't mean you can't make decent controls for pc. I really think that's the only real flaw besides the obvious like no story blah blah blah but it's the demo I get it. Just fix the controls and you're golden. Everything else is so clean & the power ups are cool as well! No like heal kits that I've seen so far ( I only played about 15 minutes though so), that would help make the game just a bit easier so we can progress farther. one last thing idk if it's a joke or something but after I die it says "PRESS ANY KEY TO RETART" idk maybe i'm reading it wrong but i swearrr it says that. good game overall though good job! :)
Thank you for the big feedback! Yeah I got a lot of complains about the controls.. kinda messed this one up a bit.. :D But I'm currently working on a better control scheme plus the option to bind your keys how you want them to be! So that shouldn't be a problem in the future. Also healing options are already implemented in my current version. The "Retart" is already fixed.. kind of funny though :D
Awesome, the movements are reactive and very smooth, amazing graphics and beatifull gameplay, but, for me, it's a little too hard, only beacuse there are too much enemy in the same area... But except for this, really good game!
Thank you so much! Yeah I have to tweak the spawn system a bit.. there can be areas with way too much mobs ;)
Hello! I played your game! I actually REALLY like it - controls are really tight and the pace is high. It's too difficult for me, but still really cool. I kept thinking of an endless amount of things to add to the game which I do when I feel a game could be so good with more content. You've got something great going here! Super good for an early beta!!
The immediate feedback I was going to give has been mentioned already in most of the comments, I hope you keep working on this 😊
Already commented on the video, but I want to give you a big thank you here too! :)
I really liked this game and the gameplay. I would have liked to have had a bit more story and introduction added to my experience. I feel that could have really set this game apart. Although, it is fantastic gameplay and does stand on its own with that alone.
Thanks for your feedback! The story is not completely finished yet so I didn't want to put a lot of it in the demo..maybe it will change a bit. But there will be a nice little story line in the finished version :)
This game is sweet! But please let me set my own keybindings.
I really like this game. It reminds me of Risk Of Rain. The game feel is alright I think the dust effect when the player lands is cool. My suggestion to improve this game would be to make the jump a bit faster. This way the player feels more alive. Good luck with the development!
It was fun even though I suck.
Please demo for Android - iOS ♡
Great Game, Love the game play but I feel like jump may be a bit unresponsive
so I just gave this game a go and quite enjoyed it though the controls are a bit odd and clunky enjoyed the combat the most
I like the art and the concept i honestly feel "Best played with a controller" is crap work the actions to a more standard control scheme that would make even this demo much more fun
Just played your game! Super cool sprites!
Here is a couple suggestions:
- The Control Scheme is really odd, to be frank, I don't like it, it takes me out of the experience when I have to look at my keyboard to find the right key and some of the keys didn't work. You can jump with 'W', but not with the 'Up Arrow' key. It feels really uncomfortable to jump and attack.
- During my play, two chests appeared right next to each other (not sure if that is a problem)
- The gold from those chests were behind the chest sprites
- One of the long necked plant monsters hit me from the other side of the screen through the walls
- I killed some slimes, and there slime residue effect went all over the platforms, including the ones below, above, and the opposite sides of walls
- Please add a pause menu to either remap or exit the game
- I feel like the sword should have a bigger hitbox
Not sure if this was useful feedback, and I know you've probably have gotten a lot of the same stuff when it comes to the bugs, glitches, and suggestions. I will to continue to playtest your amazing game and I hope to see it greenlit somewhere!
Thank you so much for this big feedback! I will go into every suggerstion:
- Yeah the control scheme for the keyboard is crap, I heard that alot and also get why. I will change that and I'm also working on the option menu for changing the keys so you can use whatever you want.
-The chest spawn is fixed already in my current version, shouldn't happen anymore.
-The gold should now always be on top of everything since I changed the depth system.
-I'm currently recoding the hole game in a new project (because I had lots of old and bad code in the older version) and I will take care of the plants attack behaviour!
-The slime and blood effects are usually on top of the sprites and would drip over cliffs but I get that this looks odd when it's behind the sprites looking like it would go through walls.. will change that!
- pause menu is already added in my current version
-I will play with the hitbox a bit to see what feels better!
Again, thank you very much for the feedback, that was definitely useful!
This game is really cool and well made! I really enjoyed the art and over the top effects. But I also feel the game has a few problems. first of all I feel the way the controls are mapped is a bit odd, the solution to this could be to have a pause menu which allows you to remap the controls. My biggest problem is how when you hit an enemy there is so much of a reaction from the game but almost no reaction when the player gets hit which makes it hard for me to realize when I've been hit and often dying without realizing I'd been hit. I've just spent so much time criticizing this game because I think this game is great and i would like to see it improve.
Thank you for playing! :) I'm already working on a controls option where you can set everything how you want it to be! For when the player gets hit I will add screenshake and I also thought about a red surface that surrounds the screen when it gets critical or something like that. That's definitely a good point, thank you for that! :)
Thank you for your feedback! I watched your video and you did very well :) Most of your complaints are already fixed and I hope you give it another try when I update the game!
It is very hard for me to play your game because of G attack button. But graphics and sound are very good. Please, make custom controls (I want to use mouse for attack)
Thank you for playing! Custom controls will be in the next update! Already working on that
So I've tested your game and the music and visuals are ascetically pleasing to listen to view and play, the easy controls match the combat and the use of a controller work very well HOWEVER I did find one small exploit which doesn't exactly break the game....When the game begins your figure out their is a climb and jump of the walls feature. Once the game starts or your character dies if they turn around they can climb the invisible wall behind the spawn and climb thought a mountain and exploit out of the map. I suggest you fix that ;)
I had fun playing I see your inspiration, and I'm excited to see this develop future - Excellent job.